bug #8252
closedreference ellypsis must not be applied to all reference types
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Journal titles in dropdown list in reference editor must not be truncated.
How to differentiate between "Archiv für Hydrobiologie" und "Archiv für Hydrobiologie und Planktonkunde"?
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Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
- Subject changed from Journal titles in dropdown list truncated to reference ellypsis must not be applied to all reference types
- Priority changed from New to Highest
- Target version changed from Unassigned CDM tickets to Release 5.7
I think the same accounts for book series etc.
the reference title cache ellypsis must not be applied to all reference types.
Which types need to be excluded?
Updated by Wolf-Henning Kusber over 5 years ago
reference title cache ellypsis must not be applied to:
Book series
Journal
Proceedings
i.e. all standardised invariable entries selected by many references/items.
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
- Status changed from New to Resolved
- Assignee changed from Andreas Kohlbecker to Wolf-Henning Kusber
- % Done changed from 0 to 50
done! please review.
Updated by Wolf-Henning Kusber over 5 years ago
- Assignee changed from Wolf-Henning Kusber to Andreas Kohlbecker
All Titles are given fully up to a length of approx. 60 characters.
This is okay (i) because the the title can be identified, (ii) the full title can be checked by clicking the edit button.
Example:
Abhandlungen der Naturhistorischen Gesellschaft zu Nürnberg
fully given
Mémoires du Muséum National d'Histoire Naturell, Nouvelle ...
truncated, full title is:
Mémoires du Muséum National d'Histoire Naturell, Nouvelle Série, Série B, Botanique
I can live with this.
Further issues:
Proceedings can not tested because of lacking data (ToDo WHK)
Series include Series and Jounals (This should be checked and tested by WHK)
I propose to set this ticket to 100% and close it, agreed?
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
- Status changed from Resolved to Feedback
- Assignee changed from Andreas Kohlbecker to Wolf-Henning Kusber
All Titles are given fully up to a length of approx. 60 characters.
This is okay (i) because the the title can be identified, (ii) the full title can be checked by clicking the edit button.
It is also possible to skip the ellipsis completely in this case some titles could exceed the given space, though.
What is the best solution from the user perspective?
Updated by Wolf-Henning Kusber over 5 years ago
- Assignee changed from Wolf-Henning Kusber to Andreas Kohlbecker
"It is also possible to skip the ellipsis completely in this case some titles could exceed the given space, though.
What is the best solution from the user perspective?"
In the following case:
Mémoires du Muséum National d'Histoire Naturell, Nouvelle ...
truncated, full title is:
Mémoires du Muséum National d'Histoire Naturell, Nouvelle Série, Série B, Botanique
it could be that an informative (=distinctive) part comes after the ellipsis. So to be on the safe side it would be better to skip the ellipsis completely for the given Reference types.
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
- Related to task #8209: use ellypsed references for all reference comboboxes added
Updated by Wolf-Henning Kusber over 5 years ago
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Ellipsis must not be applied to in-authors/nomenclatural author team.
Example:
How to correct
Kulikowski, Metzeltin & Lange-Bert.
to
Kulikowski, Lange-Bert. & Metzeltin ? See screen shot.
(Reference itself is okay)
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
- Assignee changed from Andreas Kohlbecker to Wolf-Henning Kusber
Wolf-Henning Kusber wrote:
Ellipsis must not be applied to in-authors/nomenclatural author team.
Example:
How to correct
Kulikowski, Metzeltin & Lange-Bert.
to
Kulikowski, Lange-Bert. & Metzeltin ? See screen shot.(Reference itself is okay)
This means implementing the rule that the ellypsis must not be applied to sections having an article as inReference. But what if the list of authors is quite long? I am thinking of cases with ~10 authors in the team. In this case the the text line shown in the combobox would be quite/too long again.
Updated by Wolf-Henning Kusber over 5 years ago
- Assignee changed from Wolf-Henning Kusber to Andreas Kohlbecker
For a pragmatic approach (as of 16 May 2019):
Currently: only 20% authors can be recognized. That means that each needed section author team is newly established and produces duplicats or multiple entries.
If 20% of authorteams have one author, 20% = two authors, 20% = three authors, 20% = four authors, 20% >=five authors:
I need the correct author team, i.e. if nomenclatural authors are section authors, I need these, if nomenclatural authors are identical to bibliographic authors, I need those (but in the latter case, I can check the bibliographic reference)
If cut off after the second author = 40% of author teams can be recognized.
If cut off after the third author = 60% of author teams can be recognized.
If cut off after the fourth author = 80% of author teams can be recognized.
If no cut off = 100% of author teams can be recognized BUT the string is to long.
A pragmatic approach for users would be 80% (60% only if the developer has major problems)
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
- Assignee changed from Andreas Kohlbecker to Wolf-Henning Kusber
Would using the acronyms or truncating the names of the section authors to acronyms be helpful?
e.g.:
- Kulikowsy M --> K. M.
- Lange-Bertalot Horst --> H. L-B.
Updated by Wolf-Henning Kusber over 5 years ago
not realy, people do not know alle given names.
How I could differentiat between D.M. (= Ditmar Metzeltin) and D.M. (= David Mann)?
But this opens also a new issue:
Why the bibliographic representation of nomencaltural authors is used?
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
- Assignee changed from Wolf-Henning Kusber to Andreas Kohlbecker
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
- Status changed from Feedback to In Progress
During a phone call today we decided to give the following solution a try:
- The section author team will be truncated after the 4th author name
- Other reference types should be ellypsed 'normally'
IMPORTANT: The nom. reference combobox is showing bibliographic authors instead of the nomenclatural vaviant - this needs to be fixed!
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
- Status changed from In Progress to Resolved
- Assignee changed from Andreas Kohlbecker to Wolf-Henning Kusber
- % Done changed from 50 to 60
The improvement is implemented, please review once the test server is updated.
Updated by Wolf-Henning Kusber over 5 years ago
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- Assignee changed from Wolf-Henning Kusber to Andreas Kohlbecker
- % Done changed from 60 to 80
six section nomenclatural authors
three authors "et al." displayed. This should be acceptable by users.
Authors are bibliographic (see above)
In the "Registration Workingset Editor" view the six nomenclatural authors are perfectly displayed.
Selection in the Reference Edior opening a section:
three authors "et al." displayed. This should be acceptable by users.
Authors are bibliographic (see above)
No issue: collector(s) in Specimen Typedesignation editor:
three authors "et al." displayed. This should be acceptable by users.
Authors are bibliographic (here this is perfect, because collectors can be bibliographic without being nomenclatural authors)
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
Since there are no more obvious problems with reference ellypsis we can close this issue, agreed?
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker over 5 years ago
- Assignee changed from Andreas Kohlbecker to Wolf-Henning Kusber
- % Done changed from 80 to 90
Updated by Wolf-Henning Kusber over 5 years ago
- Assignee changed from Wolf-Henning Kusber to Andreas Kohlbecker
- % Done changed from 90 to 100
Technically the problem is solved.
As far as we keep the "bibliographic authors" issue in mind, we can close this ticket.
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker about 5 years ago
- Status changed from Resolved to Closed
The issue of bibliographic authors being displayed for the nomenclatural reference is also fixed now.
Updated by Andreas Kohlbecker about 5 years ago
- Related to bug #8375: ReferenceEllypsisFormatter produces too long strings in specific cases added